with their fish tanks or eight-tracks or What happens after we die? And she says, Well, you die, and you get to be part of the Earth, and you get to be part of what happens next. And it was just a very sort of matter-of-fact way of looking at the world. Yeah. Tippett: Yeah. Deeper truths and larger stories of ourselves as societies, as a planet, as humans, that at once complicate and enliven our capacity to live with dignity and joy and wholeness. Return like a word, long forgotten and maligned. We have been in the sun. We want to meet what is hard and hurting. Ive been reading Ada Limn for years, and was so happy when she was named the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. In generational time, they are stitching relationship across rupture. like water, elemental, and best when its humbled, Tippett: So at this point in my notes, I have three words in bold with exclamation points. I'm not often one for Schadenfreude, but I may have felt it a bit yesterday, when friend told me that they'd heard NPR announce that Krista Tippett 's "On Being" Show, which I've railed against for years, is finally ending its two-decade stint on NPR. If you had thought about it And you said that this would be the poem that would mean that you would never be Poet Laureate. On Being, which began on public radio, has been named a best podcast by The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Guardian, the Webbys, iHeart Radio with more than 400 million downloads. And I knew that at 15. I trust those moments where it feels like, Oh, right, this is a weird. Language is strange, and its evolving. unpoisoned, the song thats our birthright, Nov 19, 2022, 8:00pm PST. SHARE 'It's a hard time in the life of the world' a conversation with Krista Tippett. Dont get me wrong, I do Ive got a bone Yeah. It is the world and the trees and the grasses and the birds looking back. , its woven through everything. And one of them this is also on The Hurting Kind is Lover, which is page 77. But when we talk about the limitations of language in general, I find language is so strange. Limn: Yeah, I think theres so much value in grief. Singing is able to touch and join human beings in ways few other arts can. of dust and I wish to reclaim the rising. This might be hard for some of you right here. I love it. Yeah. Nothing, nothing is funny. The Fetzer Institute, supporting a movement of organizations applying spiritual solutions to societys toughest problems. And it was just me, the dog, and the cat, and the trees. She is a former host of the poetry podcast. is a murderous light, so strong. Nick Offerman has played many great characters, most famously Ron Swanson in Parks and Recreation, and he starred more recently in an astonishing episode of The Last of Us. Listen Download Transcript. adrienne maree brown "We are in a time of new suns" On Being with Krista Tippett Society & Culture "What a time to be alive," adrienne maree brown has written. and snowshoes, maple and seeds, samara and shoot, Tippett: No, theres so much to enjoy. Krista interviewed her in 2015, and it quickly became a much-loved show as her voice was just rising in common life. And were you writing The Hurting Kind during the pandemic and lockdown? So its a very special place. Tippett: So I feel like the last one Id like for you to read for us is A New National Anthem, which you read at your inauguration as Poet Laureate. In fact, my mother is and was an atheist. And the last voice that you hear singing at the end of our show is Cameron Kinghorn. Adventures into what can replenish and orient us in this wild ride of a time to be alive: biomimicry and the science of awe; spiritual contrarianism and social creativity; pause and poetry and more towards stretching into this world ahead with dignity . Limn: Yeah. I think there was also he also was a singer, so he would just sing. How am I? You could really go to some deep places if you really interrogated the self. And it was this moment of like, Oh, this is abundance. I have decided that Im here in this world to be moved by love and [to] let myself be moved by beauty. Which is such a wonderful mission statement. Tippett: But we dont need to belabor that. Tippett: Something I remember reading is that you grew up in an English-speaking household, but your paternal grandfather spoke Spanish and that you just loved to listen to him. And so thats really a lot of how I was raised. Actually, thats in. And then to do it on top of really global grief, that is a very kind of different work because then you think, Well, who am I to look at this flower? And I always thought it was just because I had to work. Tippett: And we were given to remember that civilization is built on something so tender as bodies breathing in proximity to other bodies. (Unedited) The Dalai Lama, Jonathan Sacks, Katharine Jefferts Schori, and Seyyed Hossein Nasr with Krista Tippett. Dacher Keltner and his Greater Good Science Center at Berkeley have been pivotal in this emergence. Tippett: You see what I did? And then there are times in a life, and in the life of the world, where only a poem perhaps in the form of the lyrics of a song, or a half sentence we ourselves write down can touch the mystery of ourselves, and the mystery of others. And thats also not the religious association with Sunday, right? We keep forgetting about Antlia, Centaurus, But mostly were forgetting were dead stars too, my mouth is full, of dust and I wish to reclaim the rising, to lean in the spotlight of streetlight with you, toward. I could. But each of us has callings, not merely to be professionals, but to be friends, neighbors, colleagues, family, citizens, lovers of the world. Two entirely different brains. red glare and then there are the bombs. Sometimes youre, and so much of its. I feel like theres so many elements to that discovery. You boiled it down. I feel like the short poem, maybe read that one, the After the Fire poem is such a wonderful example of so much of what weve been talking about, how poetry can speak to something that is impossible to speak about. Yeah. And so I have. if we declared a clean night, if we stopped being terrified. How am I? You could really go to some deep places if you really interrogated the self. I feel like theres a level in which it offers us a place to be that feels closer to who we are, because there is always that interesting moment where someone asks you who you are, even just the simple question of, How are you? If we really took a minute to think about it, How am I? Shes written six books of poetry, most recently, The Hurting Kind. And if you cant have hope, I think we need a little awe, or a little wonder, or at least a little curiosity. The thesis is still the wind. The thesis is still a river. The thesis has never been exile., Yeah. Tippett: this is how vitality looks like. And: advance invitations and news on all things On Being, of course, The On Being Project And here was something that was so well crafted and people to this day will say its one of the most expert villanelles ever written its so well crafted, and yet it doesnt actually offer any answers. has lost everything, when its not a weapon, And I feel like its very interesting when you actually have to get away from it, because you can also do the other thing where you focus too much on the breath. There is so much actionable knowledge in the tour of the ecosystem of our bodies that Kimberley Wilson takes us on this hour. And then in this moment it was we cared for each other by being apart. [audience laughs] And he had a little cage, I would make sure he was And he would get bundled up and carried from house to house. and I never knew survival And if its weekly, theres a day of the week and you do it. Lean Spirituality. What were talking about and not when we talk about mental health. And it was an incredible treat to interview her before 1,000 people, packed together in a concert hall on a cold Minnesota night. And they would say, I dont want to go to yoga. And I was like, Why? And they said, I just dont want anyone telling me when to breathe. [laughter] But its true. The fear response, the stress response, it had so many other kinds of ripple effects that were so perplexing. The listener wants to understand the humanity behind the words of the other, and patiently summons one's own best self and one's own best words and questions.". And I know that when I discovered it for myself as a teenager that I thought, Oh, this is more like music where its like something is expressing itself to you and you are expressing yourself to it. Henno Road, creek just below, And it often falls apart from me. Two entirely different brains. We offer it here as an audio experience, and we think you will enjoy being in . Now, somethings, breaking always on the skyline, falling over. Limn: Yeah. Easy light storms in through the window, soft, edges of the world, smudged by mist, a squirrels, nest rigged high in the maple. This might be hard for some of you right here. Limn: I remember having this experience I was sort of very deeply alone during the early days of the pandemic when my husbands work brought him to another state. like the flag, how it undulates in the wind And I knew that at 15. And Im sure it does for many of you, where you start to think about a phrase or a word comes to you and youre like, Is that a word? Youre like, With. the collar, constriction of living. The next-generation marine biologist Ayana Elizabeth Johnson would let that reality of belonging show us the way forward. And its continual and that it hits you sometimes. My body is for me.. I feel like I could hear that response, right? Something I remember reading is that you grew up in an English-speaking household, but your paternal grandfather spoke Spanish and that you just loved to listen to him. Tippett: Yeah, it was completely unnatural. And so thats really a lot of how I was raised. And I think about that all the time. And I remember sitting on my sofa where I spent an inordinate amount of time, and reading it. The Pause. I mean, thats how we read. What happens after we die? And she says, Well, you die, and you get to be part of the Earth, and you get to be part of what happens next. And it was just a very sort of matter-of-fact way of looking at the world. Cracking time open, seeing its true manifold nature, expands a sense of the possible in the here and the now. And sometimes when youre going through it, you can kind of see the mono-crop of vineyards that its become. but I was loved each place. Tippett: Something that you reflect on a lot that I would love to just draw you out on a bit is I think people who love language the most, and work with language, also are most intensely aware of the limits of language, and thats partly why youre working so hard. Ada Limn. And honestly, this feels to me like if I were teaching a college class, I would have somebody read this poem and say, Discuss.. We want to do that where we live, and we want to do it walking alongside others.. For her voice of insistent honesty and wholeness and wisdom and joyfulness. And if I had to condense you as a poet into a couple of words, I actually think youre about and these are words you use also wholeness and balance. In a political and cultural space that rewards certainty, ferments argument, and hastens closure, we nourish and resource the interplay between inner life, outer life, and life together. Yeah. So I think were going to just have a lot of poetry tonight. I mean, even that question you asked, What am I supposed to do with all that silence? Thats one way to talk about the challenge of being human and walking through a life. into an expansion, a heat. We are in the final weeks as On Being evolves to its next chapter in a world that is evolving, each of us changed in myriad ways we've only begun to process and fathom. Limn: And then you go, Oh no, no, thats just recycling. So thats in the poem. The bright side is not talked about. And enough so that actually, as I would always sort of interrogate her about her beliefs and, Do you think this, do you think that? Or theres just something happens and you get all of a sudden for it to come flooding back. Krista Tippett has spent more than a decade exploring important questions of life, questions that often involve faith, science and spirituality on her popular radio program and podcast, "On Being." Yes I am. But I trust those moments. We want to orient towards that possibility. Alice Parker is a wise and joyful thinker and writer on this truth, and has been a hero in the universe of choral music as a composer . To love harder? Tippett has interviewed guests ranging from poets to physicists, doctors to historians, artists to activists. This means that I am in a reciprocal relationship with the natural world, not that it is my job to be the poet that goes and says, Tree, I will describe it to you.. Tippett: Look at all these people. And I feel like poetry makes the world for that experience, as opposed to: Im fine.. On her show she promoted her new book, Einstein's God, and if the show is any indication, this new enterprise promises to be a fun fest for people inclined . Tippett: Maybe that speaks for itself. Tippett: Yeah, because its made with words, but its also sensory and its bodily. 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